Setting The Record Straight, by David Marjoram
Roker Report always welcomes contributions from talented writers, and the first of which comes from SAFC diehard David Marjoram, who you might recognise from ALS amongst others. David, along with many SAFC fans I'd imagine, is fed up with the media love-in on our neighbours up the road, and their wonderfully 'loyal' support. Here he sets about redressing the balance. Enjoy...
If there is one thing that has pissed me off for years more than anything else it is the fact the media and Sky Sports News in particular, love nothing better than to brown-nose the skunks, making them out to be the best and most loyal supporters in the world, whilst showing very little admiration for the enduring loyalty of Sunderland supporters. What makes this doubly galling are the little pot shots at Sunderland fans at the same time and, whether you agree or disagree with Niall Quinn’s latest call to arms, it has, if nothing else, provided more bait to those sniping at Stadium of Light attendances and empty seats.
When the topic of conversation is SAFC attendances, comparisons are inevitably often drawn with our black and white cousins – media darlings that they are - and to be fair they are a well supported club. However, the fact NUFC has generally had larger crowds than SAFC over the years is neither something that bothers me, or I wish to deny. Given they enjoy a bigger share of the huge North East fan base, it is only to be expected. For example, north of the Tyne must be 90% Newcastle at least, whereas County Durham and south of the Tyne is more evenly split for whatever reason. It’s also worth pointing out that a lot of the area that surrounds Sunderland is actually the North Sea.
The main reason I get frustrated with this situation is because there is usually little chance for SAFC supporters to respond effectively to any criticism; no right of reply. As a result, please excuse me while I vent my spleen because those in a position to defend Sunderland supporters and provide a bit of historical context either don’t or choose not to. I can’t say I’m totally surprised, given one such person is Mickey Horswill on the Leg-ends Football Phone-in; a man who would probably struggle to find his arse with both hands. I respect and admire the man for being part of Stokoe’s Stars in 1973, but his lack of knowledge regarding SAFC matters at times is astonishing and, to be frank, embarrassing.
I have taken it upon myself to pull together a few facts and figures that demonstrate the utter shit Sunderland supporters have been served up over the years, highlighting the unstinting loyalty we have shown in the process; hard evidence the skunks have been on to a cushy little number for years by comparison. Please feel free to use wherever necessary to settle any arguments with the cold, hard facts. It is grim reading I’m afraid, so as they used to say on the late news before Match of the Day years ago, if you don’t want to know the results, please look away now.
Wear-Tyne Comparison
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Last 25 Seasons (1985/86 – 2009/10) |
SAFC |
NUFC |
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Seasons spent in old First Division (FD)/Premier League (PL) |
10 |
21 |
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Longest spell in FD/PL |
4 seasons |
16 seasons |
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Shortest spell in FD/PL |
1 season (3 occasions) |
5 seasons |
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Top half finishes in FD/PL |
2 (Best: 7th - twice) |
10 (Best: 2nd - twice) |
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Top 4 finishes |
0 |
5 |
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Seasons ending in relegation |
6 |
2 |
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Longest time period between relegations from FD/PL |
6 seasons |
20 seasons |
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Shortest time period between relegations from FD/PL |
3 seasons |
20 seasons |
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Relegations immediately following promotion |
3 |
0 |
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Seasons played in Europe (European Cup/Champions League, UEFA Cup, Cup Winners Cup, Fairs Cup, Intertoto Cup) |
0 |
10 |
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Seasons spent outside the top two divisions in England |
1 |
0 |
|
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Last 50 Seasons (1960/61-2009/10) |
SAFC |
NUFC |
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Seasons spent in FD/PL |
22 |
35 |
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Longest spell in FD/PL |
6 seasons |
16 seasons |
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Shortest spell in FD/PL |
1 season (4 occasions) |
5 seasons |
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Top half finishes in FD/PL |
2 (Best: 7th - twice) |
17 (Best: 2nd - twice) |
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Top 4 finishes |
0 |
5 |
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Seasons ending in relegation |
8 |
4 |
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Longest time period between relegations from FD/PL |
9 Seasons |
16 Seasons |
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Shortest time period between relegations from FD/PL |
3 Seasons |
11 Seasons |
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Relegations immediately following promotion |
4 |
0 |
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Seasons played in Europe |
1 |
14 |
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Seasons spent outside the top 2 divisions in England |
1 |
0 |
Perhaps the loyalty of Sunderland supporters will be recognised and paid a decent tribute one day; recognition that we’re lucky to have retained the massive support we still receive. Maybe there’ll be a stop to unfair comparisons between two clubs who have endured vastly different fortunes over the last 50 years. Those in a position to defend us from unwarranted criticism could even start to do so effectively.
I’ll not be holding my breath however.
FTM
David Marjoram
You can follow David on Twitter too @MackemMarj
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Wear-Tyne Comparison
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Last 25 Seasons (1985/86 – 2009/10) |
SAFC |
NUFC |
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Seasons spent in old First Division (FD)/Premier League (PL) |
10 |
21 |
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Longest spell in FD/PL |
4 seasons |
16 seasons |
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Shortest spell in FD/PL |
1 season (3 occasions) |
5 seasons |
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Good reading, that. I’ve said for years (and met many folk who said this was true for them) that the worst team in history twice was the final straw. When you look back at that dross, it’s amazing we get what we get!
by Jonathan Walsh on Jan 11, 2011 11:00 AM GMT reply actions
Have always said and always will we are not that loyal. How can we class ourselves as loyal? what does that mean? I have been a season ticket holder since the day the stadium opened am I loyal? yes I suppose I am in some peoples eyes, however compare me to a Peterborough season ticket holder the same lenght of time as me….Is he more loyal then me? but yet they get small crowds so are their fans not as loyal as ours then?
Its been easy for us to come and watch a team in our fantastic stadium. We always had a chance of promotion or doing something decent in the Premier the like of Boston Utd, Hartlepool, Scunthorpe, Darlington etc ect season ticket holders…now they are what you call loyal fans!!!
They can go on about Newcastle fans all they like I know what makes a loyal fan do they?
Ha way the lads ….we should always be talking about the ones who turn up and how fantastic we are and not the ones that stay away. Talk about the seats who have someone in them not the ones that don’t. I don’t care what the press say anyway Sky are full of shit and as for that shower the BBC. One thing I know is this….. we have brilliant fans who on their day can create an atmospher like nothing I have ever experienced anywhere else that will do me ..;-)
by Colin Lynch on Jan 11, 2011 9:06 PM GMT reply actions
Brilliant article. Very well written and right on the money.
by MG on Jan 11, 2011 10:55 PM GMT reply actions
Our family love Sun’land….
they are a connection to our roots and tradition
why else would weu support them, obviously not on our recent record
As you pointed out we suffer from negatively biased publicity from the media
both locally ( absolutely pathetic reporting ) and nationally
Your chart is excellent as it is comparative and not just attendance based
which for me shows we have some very loyal supporters,
and the fluctuations in our attendances shows the fickle/potential supporters
given our catchment area
Sunderland till we die!!!
…….and most importantly for me, if and when we are top dogs again
i will enjoy the moment with a chest full of pride and a dose of humility
by David "Ces" Irwin on Jan 12, 2011 3:24 AM GMT reply actions

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